{"id":9245,"date":"2025-10-22T10:28:50","date_gmt":"2025-10-22T14:28:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?p=9245"},"modified":"2025-10-23T18:23:13","modified_gmt":"2025-10-23T22:23:13","slug":"drew-lichtenberg-2-2-2-2-2-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?p=9245","title":{"rendered":"Terry Knickerbocker"},"content":{"rendered":"<!--powerpress_player--><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_3492\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9245-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/stateofshakespeare\/www.stateofshakespeare.com\/TSS\/Media\/TerryKnickerbocker.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/stateofshakespeare\/www.stateofshakespeare.com\/TSS\/Media\/TerryKnickerbocker.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/stateofshakespeare\/www.stateofshakespeare.com\/TSS\/Media\/TerryKnickerbocker.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/stateofshakespeare\/www.stateofshakespeare.com\/TSS\/Media\/TerryKnickerbocker.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?powerpress_pinw=9245-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/stateofshakespeare\/www.stateofshakespeare.com\/TSS\/Media\/TerryKnickerbocker.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"TerryKnickerbocker.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/in\/podcast\/the-state-of-shakespeare\/id478609859?mt=2&amp;ls=1#episodeGuid=https%3A%2F%2Fstateofshakespeare.com%2F%3Fp%3D9245\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4sUrD1Xw2LZYxf8TUdXU7m\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Arts--Culture-Podcasts\/The-State-of-Shakespeare-p960444\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/music.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLWEywaKq6znUzOYmMa56pvQ5gozrgM6k5\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_youtube\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Youtube Music\" rel=\"nofollow\">Youtube Music<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?feed=podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile\" style=\"grid-template-columns:21% auto\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"488\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/image.png?resize=488%2C680&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6891 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/image.png?w=488&amp;ssl=1 488w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/image.png?resize=50%2C70&amp;ssl=1 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 488px) 100vw, 488px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:27px\"><strong>Measure for Measure; Act 2, Scene 4<br> <strong>Angelo<\/strong><br>October 20, 2025<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-jetpack-tiled-gallery aligncenter is-style-rectangular\"><div class=\"\"><div class=\"tiled-gallery__gallery\"><div class=\"tiled-gallery__row\"><div class=\"tiled-gallery__col\" style=\"flex-basis:66.74718%\"><figure class=\"tiled-gallery__item\"><img decoding=\"async\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Staff-Photos-115-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=600&#038;ssl=1 600w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Staff-Photos-115-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=900&#038;ssl=1 900w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Staff-Photos-115-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1200&#038;ssl=1 1200w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Staff-Photos-115-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1500&#038;ssl=1 1500w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Staff-Photos-115-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1710&#038;ssl=1 1710w\" alt=\"\" data-height=\"2560\" data-id=\"9246\" data-link=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?attachment_id=9246\" data-url=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Staff-Photos-115-684x1024.jpg\" data-width=\"1710\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Staff-Photos-115-684x1024.jpg?ssl=1\" data-amp-layout=\"responsive\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Open image 1 of 3 in full-screen\"\/><\/figure><\/div><div class=\"tiled-gallery__col\" style=\"flex-basis:33.25282%\"><figure class=\"tiled-gallery__item\"><img decoding=\"async\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Actor-Talk-93-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=600&#038;ssl=1 600w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Actor-Talk-93-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=900&#038;ssl=1 900w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Actor-Talk-93-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1200&#038;ssl=1 1200w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Actor-Talk-93-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1500&#038;ssl=1 1500w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Actor-Talk-93-684x1024.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1710&#038;ssl=1 1710w\" alt=\"\" data-height=\"2560\" data-id=\"9248\" data-link=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?attachment_id=9248\" data-url=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Actor-Talk-93-684x1024.jpg\" data-width=\"1710\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/TKS-Actor-Talk-93-684x1024.jpg?ssl=1\" data-amp-layout=\"responsive\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Open image 2 of 3 in full-screen\"\/><\/figure><\/div><div class=\"tiled-gallery__col\"><figure class=\"tiled-gallery__item\"><img decoding=\"async\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/04.22.2025-TKS-SHOOT-2-1024x683.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=600&#038;ssl=1 600w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/04.22.2025-TKS-SHOOT-2-1024x683.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=900&#038;ssl=1 900w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/04.22.2025-TKS-SHOOT-2-1024x683.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1200&#038;ssl=1 1200w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/04.22.2025-TKS-SHOOT-2-1024x683.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1500&#038;ssl=1 1500w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/04.22.2025-TKS-SHOOT-2-1024x683.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=1800&#038;ssl=1 1800w,https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/04.22.2025-TKS-SHOOT-2-1024x683.jpg?strip=info&#038;w=2000&#038;ssl=1 2000w\" alt=\"\" data-height=\"1707\" data-id=\"9247\" data-link=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?attachment_id=9247\" data-url=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/04.22.2025-TKS-SHOOT-2-1024x683.jpg\" data-width=\"2560\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stateofshakespeare.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/04.22.2025-TKS-SHOOT-2-1024x683.jpg?ssl=1\" data-amp-layout=\"responsive\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Open image 3 of 3 in full-screen\"\/><\/figure><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If the goal is to be a working actor, is training optional? <a href=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?page_id=9258\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">Terry Knickerbocker<\/a> offers his perspective on the purpose of actor training. And in Shakespeare\u2019s <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Measure for Measure<\/span>, we confront a timeless dilemma: is it better to perish for the sake of principle, or debase yourself and survive?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Click here to <a href=\"http:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?page_id=9250\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">follow along with t<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?page_id=9250\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">he text<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Click here to see the <a href=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?page_id=9252\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">Folio Version<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Click here for a <a href=\"https:\/\/stateofshakespeare.com\/?page_id=9254\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">scanned version of the text<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/stateofshakespeare\/www.stateofshakespeare.com\/TSS\/Media\/TerryKnickerbocker.mp3 Podcast: Play in new window | Download Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | TuneIn | Youtube Music | RSS Measure for Measure; Act 2, Scene 4 AngeloOctober 20, 2025 If the goal is to be a working actor, is training optional? 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